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  • Saturday Winter League 2020 - 2021

Rule changes for 2020 - 2021

No handicap adjustments up or down will be made this year.

Free drop for ball lost in soft muddy wet area now only permitted if playing partners agree the ball was lost in the fairway area and not in semi rough.

To work around the new vms booking system we have created a randomised draw for all of our Saturday winter league dates which can be seen below. If anyone has to work lateshift or has an important commitment that day, a swap of tee off times may be arranged by contacting Alistair Livingstone by text or email.

Draw 2020-2021

  Week5 5th Dec Week6 12th Dec Week7 19th Dec Week8 26th Dec Week9 2nd Jan Week10  9th Jan Week11 16th Jan Week12 23rd Jan Week13 30th Jan Week14 6th Feb Week15 13th Feb Week16 20th Feb Week17 27th Feb
Game Name Tee Time Name Tee Time Name Tee Time Name Tee Time Name Tee Time Name Tee Time Name Tee Time Name Tee Time Name Tee Time Name Tee Time Name Tee Time Name Tee Time Name Tee Time
1 Hugh Lyden 0845 Ewan Gallacher 0852 Ewan Gallacher 0852 Kenny Gilmour 0852 Stuart Gallacher 0852 Alan Wylie 0845 Owen Gallagher 0837 Dougie Allan 0830 Charlie Paul 0822 Hugh Lyden 0807 Gordon McFarlane 0800 Gordon Parker 0800 Bob Hossack 0800
1 Mike McCartney 0845 Hugh Lyden 0852 John McGill 0852 Alistair Livingstone 0852 Ewan Gallacher 0852 Kenny Parker 0845 Stevie Cameron 0837 Kenny Parker 0830 David Anderson 0822 Stuart Gallacher 0807 Alan Wylie 0800 Dougie Allan 0800 Kenny Gilmour 0800
1 Stuart Gallacher 0845 Fraser Gray 0852 Mike McCartney 0852 Alan Wylie 0852 Stevie Cameron 0852 John McGill 0845 Gordon Parker 0837 Stevie Cameron 0830 John McGill 0822 Fraser Gray 0807 Ergate Ayana 0800 David Anderson 0800 Fraser Gray 0800
2 Alistair Livingstone 0852 Kenny Parker 0900 Fraser Gray 0900 Stuart Gallacher 0900 Lawrence Taylor 0900 Kenny Gilmour 0852 Mike McCartney 0845 Owen Gallagher 0837 Alan Wylie 0830 Kenny Parker 0815 Charlie Paul 0807 Charlie Paul 0807 Stevie Cameron 0807
2 Kenny Gilmour 0852 David Anderson 0900 Gordon Parker 0900 David Anderson 0900 Bob Hossack 0900 Dougie Allan 0852 Alistair Livingstone 0845 Mike McCartney 0837 Kenny Parker 0830 Ewan Gallacher 0815 Hugh McGarrigle 0807 Stevie Orr 0807 Owen Gallagher 0807
2 David Anderson 0852 Charlie Paul 0900 Dougie Allan 0900 Owen Gallagher 0900 Kenny Parker 0900 Gordon Parker 0852 Alan Wylie 0845 Stevie Orr 0837 Gordon Parker 0830 Alan Wylie 0815 Fraser Gray 0807 Owen Gallagher 0807 Lawrence Taylor 0807
3 Owen Gallagher 0900 Alistair Livingstone 0907 Owen Gallagher 0907 Lawrence Taylor 0907 Gordon McFarlane 0907 Hugh Lyden 0900 Fraser Gray 0852 Alistair Livingstone 0845 Mike McCartney 0837 Owen Gallagher 0822 Stevie Orr 0815 Alan Wylie 0815 Hugh Lyden 0815
3 Kenny Parker 0900 Mike McCartney 0907 Stevie Orr 0907 Charlie Paul 0907 Charlie Paul 0907 Charlie Paul 0900 Kenny Parker 0852 Bob Hossack 0845 Alistair Livingstone 0837 Gordon Parker 0822 Alistair Livingstone 0815 Stuart Gallacher 0815 John McGill 0815
3 Stevie Orr 0900 Gordon Parker 0907 Charlie Paul 0907 Kenny Parker 0907 Hugh Lyden 0907 Alistair Livingstone 0900 John McGill 0852 David Anderson 0845 Owen Gallagher 0837 Dougie Allan 0822 Lawrence Taylor 0815 Fraser Gray 0815 David Anderson 0815
4 Charlie Paul 0907 Alan Wylie 0915 Alistair Livingstone 0915 Gordon McFarlane 0915 Alistair Livingstone 0915 Ergate Ayana 0907 Bob Hossack 0900 Stuart Gallacher 0852 Stevie Cameron 0845 Stevie Cameron 0830 Stevie Cameron 0822 Kenny Parker 0822 Kenny Parker 0822
4 John McGill 0907 Stuart Gallacher 0915 Hugh McGarrigle 0915 Ewan Gallacher 0915 Gordon Parker 0915 Stevie Cameron 0907 Dougie Allan 0900 John McGill 0852 Hugh McGarrigle 0845 John McGill 0830 Owen Gallagher 0822 John McGill 0822 Mike McCartney 0822
4 Fraser Gray 0907 Stevie Cameron 0915 David Anderson 0915 Bob Hossack 0915 Owen Gallagher 0915 Fraser Gray 0907 Charlie Paul 0900 Hugh Lyden 0852 Stuart Gallacher 0845 Charlie Paul 0830 Gordon Parker 0822 Mike McCartney 0822 Stevie Orr 0822
5 Gordon Parker 0915 Kenny Gilmour 0922 Bob Hossack 0922 Hugh Lyden 0922 Ergate Ayana 0922 David Anderson 0915 David Anderson 0907 Gordon McFarlane 0900 Bob Hossack 0852 Lawrence Taylor 0837 Ewan Gallacher 0830 Hugh Lyden 0830 Alistair Livingstone 0830
5 Alan Wylie 0915 Dougie Allan 0922 Kenny Gilmour 0922 Hugh McGarrigle 0922 Hugh McGarrigle 0922 Owen Gallagher 0915 Stuart Gallacher 0907 Kenny Gilmour 0900 Ewan Gallacher 0852 Stevie Orr 0837 Bob Hossack 0830 Ergate Ayana 0830 Gordon McFarlane 0830
5 Ergate Ayana 0915 Bob Hossack 0922 Gordon McFarlane 0922 Gordon Parker 0922 Kenny Gilmour 0922 Mike McCartney 0915 Hugh McGarrigle 0907 Gordon Parker 0900 Dougie Allan 0852 Kenny Gilmour 0837 Stuart Gallacher 0830 Stevie Cameron 0830 Dougie Allan 0830
6 Dougie Allan 0922 John McGill 0930 Ergate Ayana 0930 Stevie Orr 0930 Stevie Orr 0930 Lawrence Taylor 0922 Hugh Lyden 0915 Fraser Gray 0907 Stevie Orr 0900 Ergate Ayana 0845 David Anderson 0837 Lawrence Taylor 0837 Hugh McGarrigle 0837
6 Stevie Cameron 0922 Stevie Orr 0930 Stevie Cameron 0930 Dougie Allan 0930 Fraser Gray 0930 Stevie Orr 0922 Ewan Gallacher 0915 Lawrence Taylor 0907 Hugh Lyden 0900 Hugh McGarrigle 0845 Hugh Lyden 0837 Ewan Gallacher 0837 Gordon Parker 0837
6 Ewan Gallacher 0922 Gordon McFarlane 0930 Alan Wylie 0930 John McGill 0930 Dougie Allan 0930 Ewan Gallacher 0922 Lawrence Taylor 0915 Ewan Gallacher 0907 Gordon McFarlane 0900 Mike McCartney 0845 Kenny Gilmour 0837 Bob Hossack 0837 Ewan Gallacher 0837
7 Gordon McFarlane 0930 Hugh McGarrigle 0937 Stuart Gallacher 0937 Fraser Gray 0937 Alan Wylie 0937 Hugh McGarrigle 0930 Ergate Ayana 0922 Ergate Ayana 0915 Fraser Gray 0907 David Anderson 0852 John McGill 0845 Hugh McGarrigle 0845 Charlie Paul 0845
7 Bob Hossack 0930 Owen Gallagher 0937 Hugh Lyden 0937 Ergate Ayana 0937 David Anderson 0937 Stuart Gallacher 0930 Stevie Orr 0922 Charlie Paul 0915 Ergate Ayana 0907 Gordon McFarlane 0852 Kenny Parker 0845 Gordon  McFarlane 0845 Alan Wylie 0845
7 Hugh McGarrigle 0930 Ergate Ayana 0937 Lawrence Taylor 0937 Mike McCartney 0937 Mike McCartney 0937 Gordon McFarlane 0930 Gordon McFarlane 0922 Alan Wylie 0915 Kenny Gilmour 0907 Alistair Livingstone 0852 Mike McCartney 0845 Kenny Gilmour 0845 Stuart Gallacher 0845
        0937 Kenny Parker 0937 Stevie Cameron 0937 John McGill 0937 Bob Hossack 0930 Kenny Gilmour 0922 Hugh McGarrigle 0915 Lawrence Taylor 0907 Bob Hossack 0852 Dougie Allan 0845 Alistair Livingstone 0845 Ergate Ayana 0845
    0830   0839   0844   0847   0846   0845   0837   0825   0813   0759   0744   0728   0728

 

 

 

  • New WHS Handicaps for Saturday Winter League 2020-2021

     

  • WHS handicaps have been captured from the VMS app as shown in the table below. Players should play off their playing handicap during this winter league.
First Name Last Name WHS Handicap Playing Handicap
Dougie  Allan 23.9 26
David  Anderson 10.4 11
Ergate  Ayana 23.5 26
Stevie Cameron 12.7 14
Ewan  Gallacher 16.0 17
Stuart  Gallacher 3.7 4
Owen  Gallagher 8.7 9
Kenny Gilmour 18.6 20
Fraser  Gray 9.8 11
Alistair  Livingstone 9.6 10
Hugh  Lyden 9.6 10
Mike  McCartney 8.4 9
Gordon  McFarlane 9.5 10
Hugh  McGarrigle 16.7 18
John  McGill 15.4 17
Stevie  Orr 7.8 8
Gordon  Parker 13.7 15
Kenny  Parker 16.3 18
Charlie  Paul 10.0 11
Lawrence  Taylor 18.0 20
Alan  Wylie 11.0 12

 

  • The chart above has been calculated from the "White Tees Chart" below to identify your "Course Handicap".

  • You can check your handicap by getting your "WHS Handicap Index" from the VMS app (My Handicap) to identify your "Course Handicap" from the chart below.

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  • White Tees Chart
    Handicap
    Index
    White Tee
    Course Handicap 
     
    4.2 to 5.0  5  
    5.1 to 5.9  6  
    6.0 to 6.8  7  
    6.9 to 7.8  8  
    7.9 to 8.7  9  
    8.8 to 9.6  10  
    9.7 to 10.5  11  
    10.6 to 11.4  12  
    11.5 to 12.4  13  
    12.5 to 13.3  14  
    13.4 to 14.2  15  
    14.3 to 15.1  16  
    15.2 to 16.0  17  
    16.1 to 16.9  18  
    17.0 to 17.9  19  
    18.0 to 18.8  20  
    18.9 to 19.7  21  
    19.8 to 20.6  22  
    20.7 to 21.5  23  
    21.6 to 22.5  24  
    22.6 to 23.4  25  
    23.5 to 24.3  26  
    24.4 to 25.2  27
    25.3 to 26.1  28
    26.2 to 27.1  29
    27.2 to 28.0  30
    28.1 to 28.9  31
    29.0 to 29.8  32
    29.9 to 30.7  33
    30.8 to 31.6  34
    31.7 to 32.6  35
    32.7 to 33.5  36
    33.6 to 34.4  37
    34.5 to 35.3  38
    35.4 to 36.2  39
    36.3 to 37.2  40

 

Scoreboard 2020-2021

First Last WHS Index WHS H'Cap
White Tees
7
Nov
14
Nov
21
Nov
28
Nov
5
Dec
12
Dec
19
Dec
26
Dec
2
Jan
9
Jan
16
Jan
23
Jan
30
Jan
6
Feb
13
Feb
20
Feb
27
Feb
Best 6
scores 
1 Stevie Cameron 12.7 14 33 39 32 30               0 0 0 0 0 0 134
2 Mike McCartney 8.5 9 33 33 36 32               0 0 0 0 0 0 134
3 Charlie Paul 10.0 11 27 35 30 37               0 0 0 0 0 0 129
4 Hugh Lyden 9.5 10 32 32 29 31               0 0 0 0 0 0 124
5 Alistair Livingstone 9.6 10 24 31 31 37               0 0 0 0 0 0 123
6 Gordon McFarlane 9.5 10 32 31 28 31               0 0 0 0 0 0 122
7 Stevie Orr 7.8 8 30 32 26 30               0 0 0 0 0 0 118
8 Ergate Ayana 23.5 26 29 27 28 31               0 0 0 0 0 0 115
9 Hugh McGarrigle 16.7 18 30 24 24 29               0 0 0 0 0 0 107
10 Stuart Gallacher 3.7 4 25 25 28 27               0 0 0 0 0 0 105
11 Alan Wylie 11.0 12 30 31 11 32               0 0 0 0 0 0 104
12 Ewan Gallacher 16.0 17 26 26 22 27               0 0 0 0 0 0 101
13 Gordon Parker 13.7 15 29 37 nil 34               0 0 0 0 0 0 100
14 Dougie Allan 23.9 26 33 31 nil 26               0 0 0 0 0 0 90
15 David Anderson 10.3 11 25 31 nil 32               0 0 0 0 0 0 88
16 John McGill 15.4 17 26 30 nil 30               0 0 0 0 0 0 86
17 Owen Gallagher 8.7 9 29 nil 29 26               0 0 0 0 0 0 84
18 Fraser Gray 9.8 11 25 28 nil 30               0 0 0 0 0 0 83
19 Kenny Gilmour 18.6 20 nil 25 29 28             0 0 0 0 0 0 0 82
20 Larry Taylor 18.0 20 22 29 26 nil               0 0 0 0 0 0 77
21 Kenny Parker 16.3 18 nil 24 25 28               0 0 0 0 0 0 77
22 Bob Hossack   21 nil nil nil 32             0 0 0 0 0 0 0 32
No of Players 19 20 16 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 22 22 22 22 22 22

 

Winnings 2020-2021

First Last 7
Nov
14
Nov
21
Nov
28
Nov
5
Dec
12
Dec
19
Dec
26
Dec
2
Jan
9
Jan
16
Jan
23
Jan
30
Jan
6
Feb
13
Feb
20
Feb
27
Feb
Total
1 Stevie Cameron 3 3 2                             8
2 Mike McCartney 1   3                             4
3 Alistair Livingstone     1 3                           4
4 Gordon Parker   2   1                           3
5 Charlie Paul   1   2                           3
6 Dougie Allan 2                                 2
7 David Anderson                                   0
8 Ergate Ayana                                   0
9 Ewan Gallacher                                   0
10 Stuart Gallacher                                   0
11 Owen Gallagher                                   0
12 Kenny Gilmour                                   0
13 Fraser Gray                                   0
14 Hugh Lyden                                   0
15 Gordon McFarlane                                   0
16 Hugh McGarrigle                                   0
17 John McGill                                   0
18 Stevie Orr                                   0
19 Kenny Parker                                   0
20 Larry Taylor                                   0
21 Alan Wylie                                   0
22 Bob Hossack                                   0
  No of Players- 6 Required 19 20 16 21                            

 

Rules 2020

We start the Winter league on Saturday 7 November 2020. Best 6 scores will count.

We start from first light, around 8:07am onwards.

No gimme putts allowed.

Mats may be used if your ball lies in the semi rough or on the fairway.
Please remember that if you choose to lift your ball and place it in the semi rough to play it, you must take it to the nearest side from where it lies. If you opt to do this you must play then ball off the grass in semi rough, not from a mat.

Winter League Local Rule for Ball lost towards wet, soft or muddy fairway area...... If your ball is lost and it is known or virtually certain that your ball came to rest on the fairway, in an area which is wet, muddy or soft, you may take a free drop at the nearest point of relief from the spot where you and your playing partners agree that the ball was lost.

The rule relies on your playing partners knowing or being virtually certain that your ball landed on the fairway, but you do not have to see the ball land which would cover those balls stuck over the horizon on a blind hole.

We must rely on playing partners to ensure that the new rule is applied fairly and is not abused, so playing partners should do their best to spot other players shots to allow them to make a fair assessment of the landing area of the shot. The new rule will apply to both the Saturday and the Wednesday winter leagues.

We will play only 16 holes, cutting out the 10th and 11th holes this year. The 18 hole and 9 hole courses will remain open throughout the winter so no need to play a composite course this year.

We play off yellow tees, as marked by the normal yellow painted wooden markers and use the white tee stroke index. The 5th hole should be played as a normal par 5, stroke index 9, even though the greens staff intend to use the forward yellow tee throughout the winter.

If 18 hole course closed and we must play twice around 9 hole course – Play 16 holes by playing the 1st,2nd,3rd,4th,5th,6th,7th,8th,then cut over onto the 2nd,3rd,4th,5th,6th,7th,8th,9th.

We play singles stableford off of your WHS 18 hole handicap. There will be no handicap revisions this year.

Weekly sweepstake will only be paid out if 6 or more players play. Winners must complete the full 18 holes. Unless the course is closed, all submitted completed scores will count towards your total.

No 3/4 handicap reduction when winter greens in operation. Players play off full or revised handicap in all situations.

The cost to enter the league is £10 per head payable to Charlie Paul on or soon after the first days play which will provide a pool of money to be used for a weekly prize fund which will pay out £3 for Best Stableford score, £2 second best stableford score, £1 for third best stableford score.

The remaining funds will be used to buy 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th prizes for the players with the best aggregate of 6 scores over the winter.  In the event of a tie we will identify a winner from the best 7 & 8 scores etc. All prizes, including the weekly sweep winnings, will be paid out at a presentation lunch on the last day of the league.

Budget 21 players @ £10 = £210.

Starting on 7 Nov means we have 17 Sweepstakes = 17 x 6 = £102 leaving a balance of £108

Prizes - 1st £20, 2nd £15, 3rd £10, 4th £5, 5th £5,

(These prizes may increase if we have any sweepstakes cancelled due to bad weather leaving a budget surplus)

Alan Glancy Quaich 2 @ £5 = £10, Tom Peddie Trophy for Best Stableford score on final day £10

Engraving 3 @ £10 = £30

On the first week, in addition to playing for your individual stableford score in your allotted time slot, we intend to play for the Alan Glancy Quaich which is a memorial trophy in memory of one of our winter league friends who passed away. After the round, Owen Gallagher will conduct a draw to make up pairs of players whose scores will be added together at the end of the day to identify the winners. You do not require to play with your partner in this quaich. Both scores will simply be added together.

The ongoing Prize list and results will be collated and published each week on the results section of the club website

Players have around 17 weeks from Saturday 7 November 2020 to Saturday 27 February 2021 to accumulate their 6 best stableford scores.

Past Winners

  League Winner Score 2nd Place Score 3rd Place Score 4th Place Score 5th Place Score 6th Place Score 7th Place Score Alan Glancy Quaich Score Max Peddie Trophy Score
2019-2020 Larry Taylor 209 Gordon McFarlane 208 Bob Hughes 206 Hugh Lyden 205 Mike McCartney 203 Kenny Fraser 203 Gerry Donnachie 202 Mike McCartney & Kenny Fraser 70 Larry taylor 40
2018-2019 Charlie Paul 199 Mike McCartney 196 David Anderson 193 Gordon Parker 187 Gordon McFarlane 187 Stevie Orr 186 Owen Gallagher 185 Owen Gallagher
& Mike McCartney
67 Charlie Paul 33
2017-2018 Peter O'Hare 205 Gordon Parker  200 David Anderson 200 Mike McCartney 198 Owen Gallagher 197 Jim Duncan 197 Gerry Donnachie 195 Alan Wylie
& Murdo Parker
72 Not
Competed
 
2016-2017 Owen Gallagher 217 Mike McCartney 215 Stuart Gallacher 215 Charlie Paul 210 Gerry Donnachie 210 Hugh Lyden 208 Gordon Parker 207 Bob Hughes %
Charlie Paul
65 Not
Competed